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	<description>Attempting, with Jacob, to pin down the unknown and extract an identity and a divinity out of it</description>
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		<title>Comment on Denying Women Church Leadership: A Spiritual Violation by sda</title>
		<link>http://wrestlingtheangel.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/denying-women-church-leadership-a-spiritual-violation/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>sda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE WANT MORE POSTS.  No really, where did you go?  Has grad school swallowed you whole?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE WANT MORE POSTS.  No really, where did you go?  Has grad school swallowed you whole?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tensions in Religion and Literature II: Empathy by Ovidiu</title>
		<link>http://wrestlingtheangel.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/tensions-in-religion-and-literature-ii-empathy/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovidiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. What a strange mixture of genuine faith and the church of Liberalism kind of worship. Sex obsessions in XX century literature and CS Lewis? The Vagina Monologue and an empathical-simpathy (sic!)toward Catholics who are afraid to perform it (ha) on their campuses? I cannot believe it. I mean yes, we may love to read great literature, but our mission is not to learn &quot;Lolita&quot; by heart...
Your brother in Christ,
Ovidiu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. What a strange mixture of genuine faith and the church of Liberalism kind of worship. Sex obsessions in XX century literature and CS Lewis? The Vagina Monologue and an empathical-simpathy (sic!)toward Catholics who are afraid to perform it (ha) on their campuses? I cannot believe it. I mean yes, we may love to read great literature, but our mission is not to learn &#8220;Lolita&#8221; by heart&#8230;<br />
Your brother in Christ,<br />
Ovidiu</p>
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		<title>Comment on Denying Women Church Leadership: A Spiritual Violation by gabriellar</title>
		<link>http://wrestlingtheangel.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/denying-women-church-leadership-a-spiritual-violation/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe and God knows that leadership or no leadership does not alter our connection with the divine. Even if we are called to do so and get turned down. God is faithful, as Im sure you know.

I dealt with this paticular scripture in the bible the other day so felt compelled to write you once I read your post. I was shaken, because it specifically said women are not aloud to take pastoral roles in the church, that God didnt want it that way. Now when I asked a source who I knew knows their stuff they put it this way( also being a woman who has served years as leadership roles in head of womens ministries) God sent his only son to be the head on the church, the body. So therefore it makes sense that God only wanted Men, born testosteron packed to be leaders. I just know that the word of God is stronger than anything and must be trusted.
Anyways I hope you get some insight that may help you sooner or later, and God bless. =]
Gabie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe and God knows that leadership or no leadership does not alter our connection with the divine. Even if we are called to do so and get turned down. God is faithful, as Im sure you know.</p>
<p>I dealt with this paticular scripture in the bible the other day so felt compelled to write you once I read your post. I was shaken, because it specifically said women are not aloud to take pastoral roles in the church, that God didnt want it that way. Now when I asked a source who I knew knows their stuff they put it this way( also being a woman who has served years as leadership roles in head of womens ministries) God sent his only son to be the head on the church, the body. So therefore it makes sense that God only wanted Men, born testosteron packed to be leaders. I just know that the word of God is stronger than anything and must be trusted.<br />
Anyways I hope you get some insight that may help you sooner or later, and God bless. =]<br />
Gabie</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tensions in Religion and Literature III: Self by theadvase</title>
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		<dc:creator>theadvase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jane Goodall&#8217;s Reason for Hope: Why Evolution Can Be a Beautiful Idea by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and I have a common interest in thinking about literature and religion.   

I find the same beauty in the evolution story as you do.  At the same time I find horror.

After reading The Origin of the Species I think most of us, like you and like me, are ready to agree with Darwin, who wrote in the last sentence:  &quot;There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.&quot;

When I think about evolution, or natural selection, especially while I am hiking in the wilderness, I enjoy the connection I feel with all of life.  I love thinking about my relatedness to such beauty and the long struggle for life.

What horrifies me is natural selection&#039;s indifference to love and hatred, to kindness and cruelty, and to beauty and hope.  It is only when I forget about these things that I feel comfortable thinking about the narrative represented by the metaphor &quot;natural selection.&quot;  It is this narrative that tells us that we are accidents in a long struggle for existence, that our lives and loves have causes but no meaning, and that in the end we suffer and die without hope.

In spite of the grandeur he saw, I think Darwin also felt this horror.  It shows, for example, in his discussion of the wasp that paralyzes its victim and then feeds the victim&#039;s living body to its young, or in his saying that we &quot;ought to admire the instinctive maternal hatred of the queen bee&quot; who kills her fertile daughters&quot; - saying &quot;we ought to admire&quot; seems to be a way of acknowledging that he did not, could not, and never would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and I have a common interest in thinking about literature and religion.   </p>
<p>I find the same beauty in the evolution story as you do.  At the same time I find horror.</p>
<p>After reading The Origin of the Species I think most of us, like you and like me, are ready to agree with Darwin, who wrote in the last sentence:  &#8220;There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.&#8221;</p>
<p>When I think about evolution, or natural selection, especially while I am hiking in the wilderness, I enjoy the connection I feel with all of life.  I love thinking about my relatedness to such beauty and the long struggle for life.</p>
<p>What horrifies me is natural selection&#8217;s indifference to love and hatred, to kindness and cruelty, and to beauty and hope.  It is only when I forget about these things that I feel comfortable thinking about the narrative represented by the metaphor &#8220;natural selection.&#8221;  It is this narrative that tells us that we are accidents in a long struggle for existence, that our lives and loves have causes but no meaning, and that in the end we suffer and die without hope.</p>
<p>In spite of the grandeur he saw, I think Darwin also felt this horror.  It shows, for example, in his discussion of the wasp that paralyzes its victim and then feeds the victim&#8217;s living body to its young, or in his saying that we &#8220;ought to admire the instinctive maternal hatred of the queen bee&#8221; who kills her fertile daughters&#8221; &#8211; saying &#8220;we ought to admire&#8221; seems to be a way of acknowledging that he did not, could not, and never would.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Intimacy in Art: Lessons from Mark Doty, John Gutoskey, and a Communion Service by David Hamstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hamstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I share some concepts that have helped me approach the meaning of the Lord&#039;s Supper?

I got this one from Richard Rice&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Reign of God&lt;/i&gt;: Communion is a &lt;i&gt;symbol that participates in&lt;/I&gt; the experience it represents.

I don&#039;t remember where I heard this one, but some literary person said: &quot;I read the book like the fire reads the wood.&quot;

Jesus is the word of God.

If you don&#039;t eat his flesh and drink his blood, you can&#039;t enter the kingdom of Heaven.

You are what you eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I share some concepts that have helped me approach the meaning of the Lord&#8217;s Supper?</p>
<p>I got this one from Richard Rice&#8217;s <i>Reign of God</i>: Communion is a <i>symbol that participates in</i> the experience it represents.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember where I heard this one, but some literary person said: &#8220;I read the book like the fire reads the wood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jesus is the word of God.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t eat his flesh and drink his blood, you can&#8217;t enter the kingdom of Heaven.</p>
<p>You are what you eat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading Log by How Seventh-day Adventism Taught Me to Appreciate the Natural World &#171; Wrestling the Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Seventh-day Adventism Taught Me to Appreciate the Natural World &#171; Wrestling the Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discovered that I like reading nature writing, particularly spiritual nature writing, and, as my reading log betrays, during the last month I&#8217;ve gone on a bit of a spiritual nature writing binge. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discovered that I like reading nature writing, particularly spiritual nature writing, and, as my reading log betrays, during the last month I&#8217;ve gone on a bit of a spiritual nature writing binge. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karen Armstrong&#8217;s The Spiral Staircase: Literary Criticism as Spiritual Autobiography by Intimacy in Art: Lessons from Mark Doty, John Gutoskey, and a Communion Service &#171; Wrestling the Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intimacy in Art: Lessons from Mark Doty, John Gutoskey, and a Communion Service &#171; Wrestling the Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] challenge me, exasperate me; why can&#8217;t I write about that, I sometimes wonder? Indeed, in a previous post, I asked this very question and argued that literary critics should acknowledge their emotional and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] challenge me, exasperate me; why can&#8217;t I write about that, I sometimes wonder? Indeed, in a previous post, I asked this very question and argued that literary critics should acknowledge their emotional and [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Hiking the Narrows Taught Me About My Body and Fitness by Anneke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anneke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a superb writer.  

Thanks for sharing your secret sharings with us. 

We are honored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a superb writer.  </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your secret sharings with us. </p>
<p>We are honored.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jane Goodall&#8217;s Reason for Hope: Why Evolution Can Be a Beautiful Idea by bobcu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobcu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it doesn&#039;t matter which explanation of the diversity of life a person accepts, but it is nice to be right instead of completely wrong. It&#039;s a proven fact that we share an ancestor with the chimps. If somebody wants to throw out all of science to believe in magical creation, that&#039;s OK, but they are much more likely to respect other life if they know all life is related. I noticed most creationists could care less about endangered species.

I&#039;m a big fan of  Jane Goodall, so thanks very much for this well written article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it doesn&#8217;t matter which explanation of the diversity of life a person accepts, but it is nice to be right instead of completely wrong. It&#8217;s a proven fact that we share an ancestor with the chimps. If somebody wants to throw out all of science to believe in magical creation, that&#8217;s OK, but they are much more likely to respect other life if they know all life is related. I noticed most creationists could care less about endangered species.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of  Jane Goodall, so thanks very much for this well written article.</p>
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